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Posted by: Dr. Sridhar V

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Incidence 1.

Mr. X went to a scan center and had MRI of Knee joint. The scan picked up no abnormality and pt was happy and went back home. Since the knee pain became worse in the same night he went to an institute to have advice. The orthopedician advised him to have another MRI in spite of pt showing him the MRI scan taken on the same day.

Pt became furious and started putting embarrassing questions to this orthopedician.

This orthopedician being a senior man got annoyed and told him to either get a fresh scan at so and so place or get lost.

Relatives convinced the patient to have another scan preferred by the Orthopedician and patient reluctantly agreed to have the scan

Now the report came as meniscus tear... Patient was operated and subsequently doing well.

Now where things went wrong?

1. Is the first radiologist inexperienced and hence missed the meniscus tear?

2. Is it because of carelessness of the radiologist in spite of being experienced? Or

3. Is it because of outdated MRI machine being used?

Assessment

On further analysis it was realized that in the first instance the center is having an out dated refurbished permanent magnet MRI machine .Similar instances can occur with outdated CT machines also.

Mind you the radiologist in this center is quite experienced.

Incidence 2

Mr. Y went to a scan center to have USG thyroid scan done. Radiologist reported the study as normal.

Since the Endocrinologist could not appreciate the images provided along with report. (remember many times one comes across stamp sized images) and lab parameters for thyroid also abnormal ….endocrinologist preferred to have a second scan in a different scan center.

Naturally the patient got upset.

Endocrinologist told the patient since the quality of the images provided are subnormal, he is not able to judge whether to start the treatment or not.( it is a fact that many times ref. consultants would like to see the images first and assess themselves and then only go through our reporting)

Reluctantly patient had scan done in a different scan center and the report came as multiple small colloid cysts. Patient got treated and doing well.

So how is that the first report did not pick up the lesion?

1. Again is the Radiologist inexperienced? Or

2. Has the experienced Radiologist missed the diagnosis?

3. Or the machine used is an outdated one?

Assessment

Review and feedback revealed that the radiologist used convex probe (water filled condom used as waterbath) instead of linear probe and tried to assess the thyroid gland. When he was informed that the diagnosis he made was wrong and still better if he stops using improper frequency probes….he pleaded innocence saying that the center is provided with only one probe (i.e. Convex) and the owner promising to buy the high frequency probe some other time. Here again the radiologist in question is an experienced one.

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The above two incidents tell us….the extreme limitations.

In the first instance of reporting was done with an outdated machine and in second instance reporting was done with an improper probe.

Though radiologists concerned are experienced ….yet reports were wrong.

Ultimately, suffering to the patient and bad reputation to the radiologists concerned.

The blame goes to…….

Now as an independent observer whom do you think is at fault?

1. Is the Owner of the institute to be blamed, for having an outdated machine or

2. You think Radiologist is also equally responsible for taking the risky proposition…

Or

3. Is it the ‘Greediness’ to be blamed… from both sides…. .since owner wanted to

earn money with less investment and the Radiologist never wanted to lose the

Incentives given for the case, being done.

4. Or do you think the Vendors have to be blamed since they keep rotating and

Distributing the refurbished and outdated machines for a cheaper price? And

manufacturers keep the price of newer machines prohibitive?

5. Or blame goes to every player involved?

Where to put in the Accountability?

No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.”

George Burns

"I am responsible. Although I may not be able to prevent the worst from happening, I am responsible for my attitude toward the inevitable misfortunes that darken life. Bad things do happen; how I respond to them defines my character and the quality of my life. I can choose to sit in perpetual sadness, immobilized by the gravity of my loss, or I can choose to rise from the pain and treasure the most precious gift I have – life itself."

Walter Anderson




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Dr.Shephy.K. Ummer said:

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Everybody is responsible.....................when you compromise
in above instances clinicians cant be blamed as we do often....
nice article....true....what can we do regarding this ?
 
December 19, 2010
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Dr. Sridhar V said:

Dr. Sridhar V
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Thank you Dr.Shephy.K. Ummer for your feed back.

I fully agree with you 100%

Unless, we , as radiologists change our attitude and stick to the basic requirements needed to commit a good Report, we are doomed.

The whole problem comes because of our attitude ' Koi bath Nahin..Adjust to karlenge '

I hope one listens to the saner voice in VIP inner wear & socks Advt, which strictly forbids 'adjustments'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07UIEUfVCXU&feature=related
 
December 20, 2010
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Dr. Bharatkumar Mudalgi said:

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As a radiologist you should stick hard to quality which includes choose quality referrals choose quality machinea choose quality radiology associates if work exceeds do quAlity quick communicationsbring out quality images and reports do good strict follow ups ----all will surely
reduce errors a give u a huge work satisfaction
 
December 21, 2010
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mueesh sharma said:

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sometimes i feel, all these issues stem from the fact that inspite of superspecialist degrees and all fanfare...a majority lot of indian doctors dont have any moral education...but obviously we r to blame ourselves for this corrosion and erosion of responsibility.

also the chalta hai attitude comes from the huge population of patients... cos inspite of what u do, someone or the other will come along...for that matter several neem hakeems have better practices than the sanest and most experienced clinicians !

anywayz it does not leave me or u bereft of the need to show the very basic of human vaules...compassion...n the central core of medical practice...do no harm...

i guess each one continuously attmepting to keep his/her own plate clean will finally lead to a sparkling kitchen !

all the very best to all of us who dare to take the moral highground...keep it up

n wish u all a cuddly x mas and joyous new year !
 
December 24, 2010
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philbert said:

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Be careful. If we do not do a good job, other clinician are eager to take over our role as an imager.
 
January 24, 2011
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drlogan said:

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as a radiologist, i faced the same problem working on outdated machine in kerala. i iadvised on change of machine.the owner was reluctant and i was half hearted working in it.. finally, the owner had his way. he got someone else..and i am happily back to bangalore... WE NEED CHANGE WHEN SOMETHING GOES BEYOND OUR COMPROMISE...
 
January 29, 2011
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Himanshu Maniar said:

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Dear Sir,
While taking a stance on such issue, we should keep in mind that it may not be possible to change machine so frequently in a private set up. The problem is when yo give your machine for buyback thedeal is invariably against you as either you get a very small amount (Which may not even cover the loan margins) or you are made to pay more.
-Himanshu Maniar.
 
March 17, 2011
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Health Care India said:

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Perfection and quality is must in medical services because it can be harmful for patients. Once you lose your reputation then its hard to gain again. http://www.hindujahospital.com
 
August 16, 2011
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Ashwini Shroff said:

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the basic reason i have seen is ... the fixed cuts from a radiologist. Clinician doesnt care as far as he gets the cut and the radiologist knows he is giving cut so even if the scan is substandard its ok.... finally pt changes doc..... but by that time both have done there bit....
 
September 01, 2011
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