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Feb 04
2010

Of Snowstorms and PRF

Posted by: Prashant Bhatt

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'Man was born free, and he is everywhere in chains'

The Social Contract

Jean Jacques Rousseau(1)

In the previous entry we looked at some “high resolution” issues.

It has been a heartening fortnight for IRADIX with Dr. Alok and Dr. Sridhar using their energies and expertise to enlighten us with Full-fledged articles. Alok’s article on Cut Practice http://www.iradix.in/489-Cut-practice.html and the discussions following it reminded me of the “Book of the world” from which Rousseau told he will educate a simple and natural child for life in a world from which social man is estranged.

Coming back to the topic of quality control, within a hospital there are many departments which have sonology units. This issue was examined in the Blog Self Referrals in which we also looked into the meaning of Quackery and how Vendors have identified their potential market within non-radiology departments to sell imaging equipment. Quackery is defined as a person posing to having knowledge-training of a particular field and practicing it, while not having had any formal training, qualification or experience in it.

See blog: http://www.iradix.in/282-Self-Referrals.html

Can the technical review meeting have a look into this?

“I have seen many of his mistakes”: The Hepatologist and the Sonologist

This remark about a fellow radiologist by the great hepatologist who knows how to see the liver ‘better’ than any radiologist made the radiologist alert. If he is talking like that about one radiologist, he will be talking in the same vein about you too behind your back. One has to be careful.

“I personally review all my cases by ultrasound” he remarked one day, in the same ‘smarter-than-you’ haughty tone.

“He gets a percentage for doing ‘ironing-with-the-probe’ ” The radiologist keeps pointing that out in management meetings.

This has led to a lot of lobbying from the opposite side, which has made the radiologist modify tactics, or to use sonography parlance-a bit of angle correction, gain and velocity range.

The Hepatologist friend who does not know anything about these terms does better ultrasound-doppler than the Radiology Head of an Organ Transplant unit.

Lesser radiologists do not even qualify for a comparison.

Snowstorms and Echogenicity.

One can start going to the sonology clinics of the esteemed ‘experts’ to see what they are doing with the probes.

The getting of a proper image from the “snowstorm” which he usually is trying to navigate through requires an adjustment of gains. The surrounding grey ‘snowstorm’ corresponds to the hepatic parenchyma, which is traversed by hepatic vessels. How can one quickly work out which structures in the image appear bright and which are dark? The key lines in the concept of echogenicity. What does the Term “echogenicity” mean? Tissues or organs with many intrinsic impedance jumps produce many echoes and appear “echogenic” =bright. In contrast tissue and organs with few impedance jumps appear ‘hypoechoic’=dark. (2)

What do physicians (even self styled hepatologists) mean when they refer to a dense liver? It reflects either sloppy language or ignorance. In contrast to radiographic methods, which visualize physical densities, sonography visualizes differences in sound velocities (impedance jumps) which are unrelated to physical densities.

The retired Head of Medicine: Understanding the liver using PRF

Many gastroenterology units have their own sonology equipment.

“Do you think you know the liver better than me” the retired head of Medicine who had just set up his clinic in a posh locality in the capital asked the radiologist. He had bought an ultrasound-doppler unit too. "I have been doing ultrasound for over 20 years"

The atmosphere in the room became uneasy as the former student, who as an MBBS student had attended the lectures of his former Medicine HOD just kept quiet, offering just a subtle smile for an answer. (and some memories of what it is to be a trained radiologist.. A trained radiologist can see an image in a way even the most experienced clinician cannot see. Blog: www.iradix.in/284-Pedagogy.html)

The HOD repeated the question. The smile continued, half-polite and half-mocking now.

“No answer?” the professor said.

“What about evaluating vasculature?” the radiologist finally broke the uneasy silence.

In the imaging of patients with chronic liver disease or portal hypertension or who have undergone liver transplantation or surgery, accurate evaluation of the hepatic vasculature is usually necessary. An informed choice of transducer and scanning techniques is important in the evaluation of the liver vasculature. There are essential technical and operator-dependent parameters that can be modified to optimize the performance and interpretation of Doppler ultrasound of the liver. Some of these parameters influence both the color and spectral components of the Doppler US examination (baseline, velocity scale, wall filters, inversion of flow), some are specific for the spectral Doppler component (angle correction, spectral gain, gate size and position), and some are specific for the color Doppler component (color gain, color bar, color box or overlay, color velocity scale, color priority) (3)

Once the radiologist illustrated some of the above points, the retired HOD did not ask him this ‘loaded-question’ again and started referring chronic liver disease cases to him.

It is not always that straight: Remembering Rousseau’s Emile

The above two examples, using the liver as a focus, illustrate some of the ways in which we can highlight the technically complex aspects of image acquisition with the ‘self-styled-experts’ and the management parties who often remark...

“it just takes five minutes to make a radiology report.”

See blog: http://www.iradix.in/281-Instant-Reporting.html

These issues of quality control, high resolution imagery to vascular issues also make one reflect on the estrangement of the ‘social man’ as described by Rousseau and the nature of common sense, sensation and reflection and formation of ideas as illustrated by the ideas of Italian philosopher Giambattista Vico which we touched upon in the previous blog Get me a High Resolution Image.

Rousseau’s “Emile” was removed from society at large to a little society inhabited only by the child and his tutor. Social elements enter the little society through the tutor’s knowledge when the tutor thinks Emile can learn something from them. Rousseau’s aim throughout is to show how a natural education, unlike the artificial and formal education of society, enables Emile to become social, moral and rational while remaining true to his original nature. Because Emile is educated to be a man, not a priest, a soldier, or an attorney, he will be able to do what is needed in any situation.

Rousseau’s Emile was published in 1762. There was no branch of Radiology then. Technology has increased our ways of acquiring sensations manifold. Finance capital has changed the way the world is organized.

Going by the varied experiences ,adventures and dilemmas which a radiologist may face in a working-day while navigating through the maze of different specialties which refer cases or the ‘business-models’ which generate cut practices, insurance, company empanelment and embassy recognition issues, it would be interesting to reflect on what Rousseau’s Emile would be educated on in today’s world.

Notes and suggested further reading:

  1. Michele Erina Doyle and Mark K. Smith (2007) ‘Jean-Jacques Rousseau on education’, the encyclopaedia of informal education, http://www.infed.org/thinkers/et-rous.htm
  2. Mathis Hofer: Ultrasound teaching Manual. The basics of performing and interpreting ultrasound scans. Second edition. Page 7.
    Apart from Clark’s Radiography, one can arm one’s “fort” with such technical publications on CT, Ultrasound, MRI techniques and images optimization which can be cited and develop a rational baseline of discussion.
    In foreign settings I found this particularly useful as there are ‘experts’ who just come in without any references and start speaking the “gospel truths….It is done like this in France and Germany…”
  3. Kruskal JB, Newman PA, Laurie G: Optimizing Doppler and Color Flow US: Application of Hepatic Sonography. Radiographics 2004;24:657-675
Although abnormalities of doppler flow are well described for many disorders and stressed for knowledge, attention to different techniques for optimization of the doppler ultrasound examination is not stressed to that much extent.

(have been myself trying to improve on this issue through reading technical publications...it is a long journey)




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Alok Varshney said:

Alok Varshney
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Ha Ha, I loved the phrase 'ironing with the probe'.

Yesterday I had a patient who had got an USG done from her gynecologist. After doing a TVS the gyne had declared a lot of POCs in uterus which could only be removed thru D&C. Luckily the patient sought a second opinion. The endometrium was squeaky clean and actually regrowing quite well (in proliferative phase).
The dangers of self referral...

Of course clinicians who self refer have a different take on this. This has become a big lobbying game throughout the world.
 
February 04, 2010
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Prashant Bhatt said:

Prashant Bhatt
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Thanks Alok-Yes "Ironing-with-the-probe" is one of my
pet phrases when lobbying with the Management.

Another one is -Which Level of Ultrasound is done-Level 1
Level 2 or Level 5?..More of this later(in coming blogs)

Tell me your level, and I will raise it by 1
 
February 04, 2010
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ANUJ mishra said:

Anuj Mishra
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I congratulate the author on his insight into radiology practice. The phrase 'ironing with the probe' is quite suited to the environments where we work. We often come across clinicians performing routine ultrasounds in their clinics with complete disregard to radiology community. And as expected, the results are disastrous, (as illustrated by our friend Dr. Alok Varshney).
Does this mean that we are entering into a new age of work ethics? Important questions still remains unanswered - 'Ultrasound is whose prerogative?'. Clinicians' or radiologists' ?
I feel clinicians should not be blamed solely for this. Where is the expertise for ultrasound in this new era of multislice CT scan and MRI? Every radiologist wants to report a CT scan or an MRI. Who bothers about plain x-ray or an ultrasound?
How can we be convinced that my fellow radiology colleagues would perform a better ultrasound than the clinician when they have never touched the ultrasound probe!! in this scenario, isn't 'ironing with the probe' by clinician a better alternative, if we think from clinicians' perspective?
This does not mean I agree to pass-on ultrasound machines in the hands of novices.
there must be some way to discourage this practice. and the only way is to take it to people and let them decide.
any patient if given a choice between a radiologist and a clinician would prefer the former, because he knows that radiologist has had didactic training in this modality.
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February 04, 2010
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Dr. Muneesh Sharma said:

Dr. Muneesh Sharma
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well i guess in india where basic rules and regulations are hardly ever followed.. enforcing even a full fledged law on who should use an USG machine would not bear any fruit...it is heartening though that as yet the use of USG by ayurvedic n homeopathic n unani n hakims n all is not much...wonder what lies in the future !
""hmm...lagta hai beta apka liver kharab hai, dekho sab safed safed hai na, aisa karo yeh choti wali kali goli dudh ke saath har amawas par le lena"" !!!...lol
 
February 04, 2010
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Prashant Bhatt said:

Prashant Bhatt
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Ref# Anuj and Muneer
Many smiles at the comments, of varied tone and language

There are many layers of this complex debate
starting from Radiology Education to Medical
Practice in the "Book-of-the-world"

No wonder Rousseau' Emile was taught in a way that
Social elements enter the little society through the
tutor’s knowledge when the tutor thinks Emile can learn
something from them.
 
February 04, 2010
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Dr. Sridhar V said:

Dr. Sridhar V
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I remember a physician turned gastroenterologist requesting me to review the sonographic pictures I provided for one of his patients and the report was normal

He telephoned me and said"Doctor You have missed an important finding of Target sign in the liver which is very well seen in the picture.Kindly review the images in your machine and get back to me, without fail"

Upon review I realized that the " Target sign " registered in his mind is nothing but the end-on view of Gastro esophageal junction noticed at the level of Lt lobe of the liver.So much so of non radiologist trying to interpret images on the hard copy,forget about their indulging in scanning them selves and giving reports.

I agree with Dr.ANUJ mishra regarding radiologists not keen on doing USG but more interested in CT/MRI because of laters glamor,which we also discussed in one of the Forms's Topics...." Is Ultrasound losing Charm among Radiologists?"

Dr.Prashant I have immensely enjoyed reading Dr.Roy.A.Filly.MD,'s article Level 1,Level 2 and Level 3 obstetric sonography , I'll see your level and raise you one.( written way back in 1989 )I think we need persons like Dr.Roy.A.Filly.MD in every radiology department.
 
February 05, 2010
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Prashant Bhatt said:

Prashant Bhatt
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Thanks for the feedbacks Dr.Sridhar.
As echoed in the comments of Dr.Anuj
and your own and the forum discussion-
"Is Ultrasound losing charm" this issue
comes down to the level of Medical care

As pointed out in your example of the
GE Junction on Mid Sagittal Left lobe liver
sections, there are many pitfalls.

Here are some common mistakes for which
patients are then referred unnecessariy
for advanced imaging

1. Mistaking the stomach for a cystic lesion with
internal echoes
2. Erroneous Suprarenal mass.
3. False calculi in kidney.
4. Diagnosing Fatty liver on one's own and treating it.
5. Duodenal gas mistaken for GB calculi
6. UV junction calculi
7. False diagnosis of Varicocele
8. Testis-Not sure whether torsion or inflammation
9. Thyroid nodules-no proper grading-guideline
10.Carotid doppler-plaques

The list can go on and on.

If I add the X-rays..conventional studies..
HRCTs (Self Reported)..one can write a whole Book

As Radiology incharge one should keep a track
of what is going on with the Imaging modalities
and in whose hands

It is a question of Service and survival
 
February 05, 2010
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